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        Home main floor ~1000 sq.ft
        2nd floor - 590 sq. ft

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Tue Jan 2 18:46:21 MST 2018

Nice to Have

        glass door for viewing
        cook on top
        efficient at low and high fire levels
        catalytic converter?

Sort the stoves

  • WoodStock - Ideal Steel Hybrid Woodstove Firebox Size: 3.2 Cu. ft.
  • Woodstock - Progress Hybrid Wood Stove Firebox: 2.8 Cu.ft.
  • Woodstock - Absolute Steel Hybrid Wood Stove 2.45 cubic foot firebox
  • Blaze King - Princess 2.85 cubic foot firebox
  • Regency - F3500 2.85 cubic foot firebox
    • https://www.regency-fire.com/en/Products/Wood/Wood-Stoves/F3500 F3500 Wood Stove
  • Consider Blaze King as well
  • Bighorn - Quadra-fire 4300 Millennium
  • Bighorn - Quadra-fire 4300 Step Top
  • Bighorn - Quadra-fire 5700 Step Top
  • Bighorn - Quadra-fire Explorer II
  • Bighorn - Hearthstone CASTLETON - BLACK MATTE $ 2,329.00
  • Blaze King Ashford 30
  • Energy Alternatives - Lopi Explorer II
  • Energy Alternatives - Lopi Endeavor Wood
  • Energy Alternatives - Lopi 1750
  • Energy Alternatives - Harman TL2.0
  • Energy Alternatives - Harman TL2.6
  • Energy Alternatives - Harman Oakwood
  • Woodstock Stove

Experienced Voices

        bholler on hearth.com forum
        Hogwildz on hearth.com forum

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Review sites

30X40 Design Workshop youtube Wood stoves - An Architect's Buying Guide ( what you need to know )

Fisher Wood Stoves - wood-stove.org/

Fisher Stoves - woodstovewizard.com/

Bob Fisher had some basic criteria that he wanted from his stove, and his wife supplied some of her own:

  • It had to be an airtight wood stove
  • Ventilation needed to be restricted and controlable with vents
  • It had to be able to keep a fire in over night
  • Carol wanted to be able to cook on the top of the stove
  • The stove couldn't smoke when the door was opened
  • The Fisher Stove had to last - this called for heavy duty steel and firebrick

Jotul Wood Stoves - jotul.com/us/

Bighorn Stove and Spa 

        Bighorn Stove and Spa
        1511 W. 4th Street. 
        Pueblo, CO 81004
        (719) 543-2673
        
        hearthstone
        jotul
        quadra-fire

Hearthstone Stoves

hearthstonestoves.com - cast iron MANCHESTER, RIGHT SIDE DOOR - MATTE BLACK 8361-0010R 

        Heats up to 	2,400 sq.ft.
        Burn Time 	Up to 12 hours
        Heat Life 	Up to 14 hours
        BTU 	78,000
        EPA Rating (grams/hr) 	2.1
        Efficiency (HHV CSA B415.1) 	71%
        
        Firebox Capacity 	2.9 cu. ft.
        Flue Diameter 	6 in.
        Flue Exit 	Top
        Ash Pan 	Yes
        Blower 	Optional
        Actual Weight (lbs.) 	515
        
        Hearth Pad Minimum Size (US) 	48 in. W x 36 1/4 in.D

SHELBURNE - MATTE BLACK 8371-0010 

        Heats up to 	1,800 sq.ft.
        Burn Time 	Up to 8 hours
        Heat Life 	Up to 10 hours
        BTU 	60,000
        EPA Rating (grams/hr) 	2.1
        Efficiency (HHV CSA B415.1) 	70%
        Configuration 	Freestanding
        Width 	26 in.
        Height (includes flue collar) 	29 in.
        Depth 	21 in.
        Maximum Log Length 	20 in.
        Firebox Capacity 	2.0 cu. ft.
        Flue Diameter 	6 in.
        Flue Exit 	Top or Rear
        Ash Pan 	Yes
        Blower 	Optional
        Actual Weight (lbs.) 	400
        Alcove Certified 	Yes
        Mobile Home Certified 	Yes

Quadra-fire Wood Stoves

4300 Millennium Wood Stove Starting at $1,999 

        Width: 	26
        Height: 	31
        Depth: 	28-11/16
        Peak BTU/hr Output1 	63,700
        Heating Capacity2: 	1,100-3,000 sq ft
        Maximum Burn Time3: 	12 hours
        Firebox capacity: 	2.3 cu ft
        Recommended Log Length: 	18"
        Viewing Area: 	165 sq in
        Efficiency4: 	80.2%
        Emissions: 	1.0 grams/hour

Jotul Stoves

Jotul F 400 Castine 

        Heating capacity: Up to 1,600 SQFT
        Approx weight: 375 lbs lbs
        Log size: Up to 20" in
        Flue Outlet: 6" in
        Efficiency: HHV 68.26% - LHV73.78%

jotul.com/us/products/ Jøtul F 3 CB Timeless bestseller

This is our signature small / medium woodstove now with an enhanced fire view. The Jøtul F 3 CB is the world’s best value for your heating dollar and is the best selling small / medium cast iron woodstove in North America. Selling up to 20,000 stoves worldwide each year, the Jøtul F 3 CB has an impeccable track record for durability- as do all of our stoves. Along with our other woodstoves, Jøtul has developed and manufactured the first complete line of non-catalytic woodstoves with open door fire viewing.

        Max output: 42,000 btu
        Heating capacity: Up to 1300 SQFT
        Log size: Up to 18 in
        Flue Outlet: 6 in

jotulna youtube Jotul F3CB

EnSage Media youtube Year review of a Jotul F3 Wood Stove

EnSage Media youtube Starting a Fire in My Jotul F3 Stove using a Campmor Catalog!

wood-stove.org/JotulF3

This heater is highly efficient which make this stove very attractive. Most people who buy this wood-burning stove enjoy it and keep it for ridiculously long periods of time. The wood burns on a bed of ash, rather than having some sort of grate. This has been said to be the best way of burning wood in a stove. A built-in, yet extremely effective airwash system keeps the large windows clean and free of condensation, allowing you to enjoy the large view of the fire.

forestryforum.com/board/ Firewood and Wood Heating » Favorite Wood Stoves

Nate Surveyor

Fisher Grandpa model. 20” log.

PAPA model. It takes a 28” log.

our old camper school bus has a BABY Bear in it.

Here is some of the Fisher Story at hearth.com/econtent/

beenthere

For our great room, have a Defiant Vermont Castings, with catalytic converter…Heats well, and wood lasts a long time.

WDH

I have an Earth Stove by Colony Hearth in my house. It heats great.

Grawulf

We have had two Timberlines over the years - very similar to the Fishers, they were the cream of the crop back in the ’70s. We replaced it with a Hearthstone soapstone last year - took some getting used to learning how to fire it but it sure is nice to have a warm stove when you get up in the morning.

Larry

Ran an Earthstove for a few years and thought it was comparable to a Fisher.

Been using a Vermont Castings Defiant Encore for the last 17 years. The top loading and ash pan clean out make it a very easy to operate stove. Heat output is second to none. The catalytic converter is a gimmick meant to please the EPA and the greenies.

WH_Conley

I have used Ashley and Wondercoal with very good results. Got to get a coal stove or get a catalyis(sp) converter. Not the prettiest stoves on the market but they are affordible and efficient. Speaking of efficient I don’t buy wood, I can’r burn 1/5 of the leavings from the mill. Might be different if I was buying firewood.

tim1234

I have a Jotul Oslo F500 Firelight. My friends own a hardware store and specialize in BBQs and Fireplaces. Their opinion after going to all the trade shows and looking at all the stoves is that the Jotul has the best looking flame. I love to watch the flames as it looks like the flame is pouring up out of the wood. It is a not catalitic stove. If you burn too hot you can damage the catalitic insert and they need to be replaced periodically. They recommended the Jotul and I have not been dissapointed. They are a swedish stove and have a very nicely detailed casting so they look good even when you’re not burning anything. I heat my 2000 sq ft home all winter alomost exclusively with the stove.

RSteiner

That stove was just replaced a month ago with a Jotul Oslo. I really like the Jotul stove it has one moving part, the draft control. Although it was not a factor when looking at stoves the viewing window in the front of the stove makes you want to sit, relax, and enjoy the view. I looked at the new Lopi cast iron stove but the fact that the castings were made in China was the main reason for going with the Jotul.

Ron Wenrich

I have a Woodstock Soapstone stove. I’ve had it for about 25 years. It has a cast metal frame, and 1” of soapstone on the sides and top. It will keep heat all night. It doesn’t use a great deal of wood.

woodstovewizard.com/index WoodStoveWizard

wiseheat.com/

hearth.com/talk/

hearth.com - Post on Morso and Jotul stoves

Morso are famous in Europe and I know they sell in the USA and Canada, they are a high quality cast iron stove manufacturer. Jotul are brilliant and I have toured their factory in Norway, I could post some photos if you like? Our f118 nearly heats all the home and never needs rekindled. I ve owned many stoves and i think jotul and morso are the best, maybe jotul has the edge, slightly, just my own view. Willy Campbell is a star, I m sure I m related to him !

energy alternatives Lopi Republie 1250

Alpine Hearth & BBQ - defunct

Morsoe

morsoe.com/us/categories Indoor Wood Stoves

morsoe.com/us/indoor Morsø 7644 with feet 

        Non catalytic burn technology
        Maximum Heat 	35,000
        Log size 	11"
        Max. Area Heated 	1200 ft2
        Firebox Dimensions 	13" W x 10 1/2" D

Quadra-fire

4300 MILLENNIUM 

        Width: 	26
        Height: 	31
        Depth: 	28-11/16
        Peak BTU/hr Output1 	63,700
        Heating Capacity2: 	1,100-3,000 sq ft
        Maximum Burn Time3: 	12 hours
        Firebox capacity: 	2.3 cu ft
        Recommended Log Length: 	18"
        Viewing Area: 	165 sq in
        Efficiency4: 	80.2%

3100 MILLENNIUM 

        Width: 	25-1/2
        Height: 	29-1/2
        Depth: 	26-5/8
        Peak BTU/hr Output1: 	51,000
        Heating Capacity2: 	1,000-2,600 sq ft
        Maximum Burn Time3: 	10 hours
        Firebox Capacity: 	2.0 cu ft
        Recommended Log Length: 	16"
        Viewing Area: 	165 sq in
        Efficiency4: 	78.3%

Explorer II Wood Stove 

        $2,589
        cast iron
        Width: 	29"
        Height: 	29"
        Depth: 	25"
        Peak BTU/hr Output1: 	61,000
        Heating Capacity2: 	1,300-3,400 sq ft
        Maximum Burn Time3: 	12 hrs
        Firebox Capacity: 	2.4 cu ft
        Recommended Log Length:  	20"
        Viewing Area: 	234 sq in
        Efficiency4: 	78.3%

thewhitefarmhouseblog.com/2017 The White Woodstove

Energy Alternatives 

        LOPI
        HARMAN
        VERMONT CASTINGS
        MORSO® USA
        
        Monday - Thursday: 8:00 A.M. - 6:00 P.M.
        Friday: 8:00 A.M. - 5:00 P.M.
        Saturday: 10:00 A.M. - 4:00 P.M.
        
        Energy Alternatives
        1626 W. Pueblo Blvd.
        Pueblo, Colorado 81004
        Phone 719-564-9444

$125 for trip and cleaning and inspection

Harman tl300

        Maxwell Chimney sweeps
        scott Maxwell
        719 583 0720-
        719-696-5260
        $40 for trip
        
        Chimney sp
        
        Wade Wills
        719
        251
        5666

Lopi 1250 Wood Stove 

        Heating Capacity	600 to 1,200 Sq. Feet
        Heat Output	66,800 BTU's / Hour
        Steady State Efficiency 	Up to 79.6%
        Maximum Burn Time	Up to 8 Hours
        Firebox Size	1.6 Cubic Feet
        Maximum Log Size	18"
        Emissions	4.4 Grams Per Hour
        Weight	270 Pounds with Legs
        Construction	1/4" and 3/16" Steel Plate

Lopi 1750 Wood Stove 

        Heating Capacity	1,200 to 2,000 Sq. Feet
        Heat Output	72,400 BTU's / Hour
        Steady State Efficiency 	Up to 78.8%
        Maximum Burn Time	Up to 10 Hours
        Firebox Size	2.2 Cubic Feet
        Maximum Log Size	18"
        Emissions	1.9 Grams Per Hour
        Weight	430 Pounds with Legs
        Construction	5/16" and 3/16" Steel Plate

Lopi Explorer II Wood Stove Starting at $2,589 

        Width: 	29"
        Height: 	29"
        Depth: 	25"
        Peak BTU/hr Output1: 	61,000
        Heating Capacity2: 	1,300-3,400 sq ft
        Maximum Burn Time3: 	12 hrs
        Firebox Capacity: 	2.4 cu ft
        Recommended Log Length:  	20"
        Viewing Area: 	234 sq in
        Efficiency4: 	78.3%
        Emissions: 	2.2 g/hr

Lopi Liberty Wood Stove 

        Heating Capacity	1,500 to 2,500 Sq. Feet
        Heat Output	74,300 BTU's / Hour
        Steady State Efficiency 	Up to 76.9%
        Maximum Burn Time	Up to 12 Hours
        Firebox Size	3.1 Cubic Feet
        Maximum Log Size	24"
        Emissions	2.6 Grams Per Hour
        Weight	470 Pounds with Legs
        Construction	5/16” to 3/16” Steel Plate

Lopi Evergreen Wood Stove 

        Heating Capacity	Up to 2,000 Sq. Ft.
        Heat Output	72,400 BTU's / Hour
        Maximum Burn Time	Up to 10 hours
        Steady State Efficiency 	Up to 74.5%
        Firebox Size	2.2 Cubic Feet
        Maximum Log Size	20-1/2"
        Emissions	3.6 Grams Per Hour
        Weight	435 Lbs. (legs), 450 Lbs. (pedestal)
        Construction	1/4" to 3/16" Steel Plate

Lopi Endeavor Wood Stove 

        Heating Capacity	1,200 to 2,000 Sq. Feet
        Heat Output	72,400 BTU's / Hour
        Steady State Efficiency 	Up to 78.8%
        Maximum Burn Time	Up to 10 Hours
        Firebox Size	2.2 Cubic Feet
        Maximum Log Size	18"
        Emissions	1.9 Grams Per Hour
        Weight	448 Pounds with Legs
        Construction	5/16" to 3/16" Steel Plate

fireplaceofatlanta.com/product Lopi Endeavor

The Endeavor has been a top-selling wood stove since 1984 because it combines form and function with an excellent heat transfer system. This wood burning stove is ideal for heating medium to large sized homes and living spaces. It has one of the cleanest burning fireboxes of any mid-sized wood stove. The firebox can also hold logs up to 18″ in length and provides longer burn times.

The Endeavor offers the closest clearance of any wood stove in the industry – as close as 4-1/4″ to a rear combustible surface. In addition, startups are easy with the bypass damper..

The Endeavor comes available with GreenStart, a patent-pending ignition system that allows you to load your wood and push a button to start! We’ve completely eliminated slow, cracked open door startups and fighting with fickle newspaper.

One of the great features of a Lopi wood stove is the cooktop surface. The Endeavor not only heats your home, but your food too!

Harman Stoves

Harman TL2.0 Wood Stove Starting at $2,439 

        Width: 	25-7/8
        Height: 	35-5/16
        Depth: 	26
        Peak BTU/Hour Output1: 	55,300
        Heating Capacity2: 	1,200 - 3,100 sq ft
        Maximum Burn Time3: 	Up to 17 hours
        Firebox Capacity: 	2.0 cu ft
        Maximum Log Length: 	18
        Viewing Area: 	182-3/16 sq in
        Efficiency4: 	75.8%
        Emissions: 	2.6g/hr

The Mingo Marker - $35

The Woodshed - Canon City 

        The Woodshed
        1215 South 9th
        Canon City, CO
        719.275.9007
        
        quadra-fire
        hearthstone
        regency
        jotul
        Enviro Wood Stoves
        Kuma Wood Stoves
        Pacific Energy

Made appointment for tech to visit

        Jessica
        Thu Jan 18 14:51:10 MST 2018
        Tech will bring control board and exhaust blower.
        160 to 285 labor
        389 board
        449 exhaust fan
        200 + 389 + 449 => 1038

Visit on Jan. 2,2018

        Like the Hearthstone Manchester
        
        Notes I brought
        
        Caught my attention so far.
        
        WoodStock - Ideal Steel Hybrid Woodstove
        Firebox Size: 3.2 Cu. ft.
        
        Blaze King Princess
        2.85 cubic foot firebox
        
        Regency - F3500
        2.85 cubic foot firebox
        
        glass door
        required clearance for corner install
        recommended pipe length
        able to cook on top
        efficiency
        efficient at varied burn rates
        capable of long burn times
        
        price on Regency F3500 3.0 cu.ft.
        $3159 $2698 with ash pan.
        
        how long in production?
        
        price of replacement catalytic combustor?
        
        Billy Cool 821-1097
        Florence, CO 
        logger, firewood, perhaps would deliver logs.

Fireplace Warehouse 

        Fireplace Warehouse
        1722 Paonia St., Colorado Springs, CO, 80915, US
        (719) 593-0355
        
        Blaze King
        IronStrike
        Jotul
        Napoleon
        Pacific Energy
        Regency
        Timberwolf
        Vermont Castings

For firebox ash management - Imperial Cat Neat ‘n Tidy, Heavy Duty Litter Scoop for Cats

woodstove.com/ woodstove.com/ Hearth and HOme Feb. 2011

Woodstove Chimney Pipe :: Through the Wall

https://store.woodstove.com/supportimages/WoodstoveCKthruwallLG.jpg

Great article on safe Chimney pipe design.

firewoodhoardersclub.com/forums/threads Replacing Fireview with....?

Lot’s of good information in this thread.

Mentioned in response

        Ideal Steel
        Blaze King King
        Regency 5100

Well, I think first of all, if absolute heat output is a prime concern, then a stove with a larger firebox would serve best. Of the stoves you mention, the Blaze King, King model (they also make a Princess but it is considerably smaller) has the largest firebox and will simply hold more firewood and so deliver more heat per full load. It seems to be a very nice stove and was on my short list three years ago when I was in the market.

I ended up buying an Ideal Steel, it has served very well and I am very pleased with it. The Progress hybrid was also on my short list.

A couple of points you may want to consider: A front opening door is much easier to clean the glass. A side opening door is usually easier to fill and will result in less smoke spillage into the house. This is only a consideration for the Progress hybrid as it is the only side loading door stove on your list. It is also a medium size stove, and the smallest on your list.

The Blaze King King has a huge firebox, is a catalytic based stove and has a huge base of very satisfied customers. No question in my mind that it would provide the most heat per load (such as for overnight) of the stoves you list, plus it has an automatic damper which apparently works quite well. A couple of downsides are: 1) it requires an 8" chimney (flue). They used to list a 6" flue as an option but that seems to have been removed. My suggestion would be to call them if you are planning on using that stove on a 6" chimney. 2) it does not have a grate and so requires ashes be shoveled out, or a plug removed and the ashes shifted through that hole when the stove is mostly empty. A grate in a stove with a sealed ashpan (Ideal Steel or Progress for example) is easier to clean the ash out of it while it is actually running. 3) the combustors are expensive for a B.K.K. at ~$375 or so. Blaze King will claim up to 10 years for combustor life buy my experience is more like 2 years or so and so the cost of the combustor you will need for any stove you are considering becomes important over, say, 10 years or more of owning and using the stove. 4) the Blaze King King is a little more difficult to remove the combustor for occasional cleaning while an Ideal Steel, for example, allows the combustor to be removed in a matter of seconds with no tool whatsoever. 5) If running very low and slow, I think the Ideal Steel is the best design to run cleanly because the combustor is located directly over the top / center of the firebox and so is easier to keep 'lit'.

There is one other stove that I considered carefully, and it is a very direct competitor (IMO) to a Blaze King King; that stove is the Regency 5100 It also has a huge firebox, about the same as a B.K.K., is combustor based but is also a hybrid stove with a secondary burn ability. A very nice looking stove, very well made, from a company with an outstanding reputation and a limited lifetime warranty (!!). I suggest you check one of those out as well; I have seen one in person at a local dealer and in some ways like it better than the B.K.K. although it does not have the automatic draft feature of the Blaze King.

In the end, I would suggest considering what you really need out of a stove and try to solve that problem (or those problems) directly. You specifically mention your wife is cold, you want more heat out of a stove and long burn times so again, a big firebox is what will deliver there. There is no magic method by which a small to medium stove can possibly compete with a large firebox. My own choice would be for a cat. based or hybrid type of stove, which is all that you mention in your list. As I read your post, I tend to think the B.K.K. would best serve you and your family, especially during those very cold Minnesnowta winters. :) I live in the northeast and while we have 'real' winters, they are not nearly as cold as I think yours will be and that extra cubic foot of firebox will almost certainly have a great value. Especially so if you do not have ready and easy access to long burning hardwoods.

Woodstock Stoves

WoodStock - Ideal Steel Hybrid Woodstove

14’ minimum recommended chimney height

        Firebox Size: 3.2 Cu. ft.
        Wood Length (Maximum): 22"
        Burn Time: 10-14 hrs
        Area Heated: up to 2,200 sq.ft. 	
        BTU Output: 13,017-60,530/hr (per EPA tests)
        EPA Efficiency: 82% (per EPA tests)
        Combustion System: Hybrid (Catalyst & Secondary Air)
        EPA Emissions: 1.04 grams/hr (per EPA tests)
        Flue Exit: Top or Back
        Flue Size: 6"
        Draft Control: Manual
        Window Size (viewable): 12.25"H x 17"W
        Loading Door: Front Only
        Weight: 620 lbs.
        Bottom Heat Shield: Standard
        Ash Pan: Optional (cannot be retrofit to stove)
        Mobile Home Approved
        Rear Heat Shield: Optional

Blaze King

Install Ideas

firewoodhoardersclub.com/forums/threads My Ideal Steel install w/ 1 week burning

Simple hearth with just a stone pad. I like it.

Basic Black IS

tractorsupply.com/tsc/product RedStone Wood Fuel, Pack of 6 - $4.00 (stamped enviro)

Pallet holds 100 packages of 6. 1 ton. Sold with a 5% discount. (100.0 * 4.0) * 0.95 => 380.0

firewoodhoardersclub.com/forums BDF on digital probes he uses

Yep, lots ‘o posts about the IS and they wander around regarding topic.

To use a ‘digital’ probe (thermocouple) you will also need some type of display or recording device. I use these probes: New 3 Meter High Temperature -100~1250 C Thermocouple K type 100mm Probe Sensor | eBay They are 8 mm on the threaded section so the hole for the thermometer on the IS must be drilled out and tapped (Oy Vei- my probe is too big for the hole! (Easy Boys)) to accept it. Note that these do not have standard K- type ends so you will have to buy some of those too and screw the wires to the adapters, not a big deal and the adapters are inexpensive.

Then I use one of these to read the thermocouples: 4 Channel K Type Digital Thermocouple Thermometer Measurer SD Logger Generic | eBay They are nice because they are 4 channel and record data on SD cards. This can be useful is you want to see how different settings affect an overnight burn for example- you can see the temperature of the cat., firebox, stove top and flue gas all at once for hours, days or even weeks at one time. I think it is what allows us to get the most out of a stove.

Brian

firewoodhoardersclub.com/forums Coyoterun show connector to use.

Thank you, Brian. That’s the information I was looking for and just couldn’t seem to find.

These are the type of connector I would need for those probes, correct?

K Type Thermocouple Mini Connector, Male, Economical [TCMALENC] - $1.80 : auberins.com, Temperature control solutions for home and industry

Omega Temperature Sensors

Omega Temperature Sensors » TJ36-XSIB Series

$63.50 TJ36-CASS-14U-12-CC-XSIB High Temperature Lead Wire (Inconel® 600 Braid over Silica Ceramic Insulation) Rugged Transition Joint Thermocouple Probes

Regency Fireplace Products

Regency F3500

Regency Pro-Series units run on a hybrid catalytic system called Eco-Boost™ technology. This hybrid system allows the fuel to burn at a slower rate utilizing its full potential

        Optimum Efficiency 	87.1%
        Maximum BTU 	75,000
        
        Log Size 	20"
        Burn Time 	up to 24 hrs
        Firebox Capacity 	3.0 cu. ft.
        Emissions (gms/hr) 	1.1
        View Area 	181 sq. in.
        Room Size 	Large
        Vent Type 	Double Wall Pipe
        Vent Size (Air Intake) 	N/A
        Vent Size (Exhaust) 	6"

Woodland Direct Chimney Kit

Chimney - Chimney Systems - Class-A Double Wall - Item #: N2592030

woodlanddirect.com/Chimney double wall DuraTech Multi Floor Chimney System Kit - 6" Diameter

Data Logger

</h3>ebay seller - labmeter</h3>

ebay seller - labmeter US Seller 4 Channel K Type Digital Thermocouple Thermometer Measurer S

US $144.30 - Fri Jan 5 05:50:08 MST 2018

DuraVent DVL double wall stove pipe

DuraVent DVL Product Page

DuraVent DVL 2016 Catalog

DVL’s double-wall, air-insulated design reduces clearances to combustibles from 18” to 6”, the closest clearance to a wall of any connector pipe. DVL improves stove performance by maintaining high flue gas temperatures for a strong, steady draft. Because the inner wall is stainless steel the flue heats up faster, stays hot longer, minimizes the formation of creosote, and has the same life expectancy as the chimney. Adjustable lengths eliminate the need for cutting or crimping.

Applications - Double-wall interior stovepipe for connecting wood stoves to manufactured chimney.

Materials and Construction

        .016" stainless steel inner wall.
        .018" galvanized outer, painted black.

Clearances - 6” clearance to walls. 8” clearance to ceilings, including cathedral ceilings.

Diameters - 6”-8”

Listings - c-UL-us listed to ULC S641 (MH14089).

p.114 of catalog

        DVL double-wall black pipe

p.115 of catalog

        DVL Telescoping Length
        DVL 44deg. elbow

Hearth Pad

hearthclassics.com/thermal-protection-faqs

UL1618

With stoves burning cleaner and hotter than ever before, a traditional ember protector or homemade hearth may not protect the combustible floor beneath your stove. Building codes and safety standards now require the hearth pad to provide adequate protection based on the stove model. With that in mind, we now offer two levels of protection to meet the needs of every stove. All our pads are tested to meet or exceed UL1618. Whether you’re burning gas, pellets, corn, coal, oil or wood, our hearth pads offer the best protection on the market - and they look great too.

Thermal Protection

For today’s highly efficient stoves, a Hearth Classics non-combustible ThermaShield pad will block the heat from passing through to your sub floor. Fully non-combustible, with an R-value of 1.61, it provides the greatest protection of any manufactured hearth pad. For stoves requiring an R-value higher than R=1.61, a ThermaShield Low-Profile base, a ThermaShield Pedestal, or a ThermaShield Xtreme Pedestal can increase the protection up to R=10. All our pads are tested to meet or exceed UL1618.

How thick are your hearth pads? Tiled pads are 1¼” thick. Stone and Brick pads are 1½” thick.

chimneysweeponline.com/horvalue Sweep's Library: R Values of common hearth materials 

        Material - Mineral Fiber Board ( Micore 160 )
        R-Value - 1.270
        Thickness - 1/2" 	
        
        Material - Mineral Fiber Board ( Micore 300 )
        Thickness - 1/2"
        R-Value - 1.030
        
        Material - Ceramic Board ( Rescor 360 )	
        Thickness - 1/2"	
        R-Value - 1.110
        
        Material - Ceramic Board ( Fiberfrax Duraboard LD )	
        Thickness - 1/2" 	
        R-Value - 1.100
        
        Material - Mineral Fiber Board ( Micore 300 )	
        Thickness - 1/2"	
        R-Value - 1.030
        
        Material - Cement Board ( Hardibacker )
        Thickness - 1/4"	
        R-Value - 0.130

Planned Hearth Pad layers

        ceramic tile 1/2"
        Durock 1/2" R 0.39
        Micore 300 1/2" R 1.03
        R = 0.39 + 1.03 = 1.42
        plywood 3/4"
        
        Woodstock Ideal Steel - required Hearth R Value: 0.41

fiberfrax-duraboard-products/ Fiberfrax® Duraboard® Products

hearth.com/talk/threads/ Sources for Micore and Fiberfrax posted by begreen

Micore and Fiberfrax is sold nationwide and online. Search for nearest distribution center for USG products in your area. Call them and ask for local distributors.

        http://www.efireplacestore.com/sbi-ac02565.html
        http://www.mantelsdirect.com/MC300-Micore-Board?amp;category=304
        
        https://www.unifrax.com/products/boards/fiberfrax-duraboard-products/

$21.97 for 1/2in 4x8 foot at Home Depot DUROCK Next Gen 1/2 in. x 4 ft. x 8 ft. Cement Board

$121.95 at efireplacestore.com SBI Micore-300 Mineral Fiber Board - Pack of Four

hearth.com/talk/threads post by Hogwildz Micore + Durock Strategies?

I used 1/2” micore & 1/4 Durok and has no issues. Make sure you use the screws required for cement board, and be be generous with them. I think I used them every 6” to 8” apart. And 6’ along the edges. I have had no issues with the microre compressing or such. I put 1/2” x 18” square natural slate on mine.

hearth.com/talk/threads/ HELP ! - Hearth build

begreen

An alternative is to use higher R value Durock which is R=.39 for 1/2”. 3 layers will easily exceed the required hearth R-value. Use of latex modified thinset is fine and recommended.

mol1jb

The last 2 tile jobs I have used Hardibacker over Durock as a personal preference, including my current hearth and stove install which I also used slate tile.

begreen

It will work when ember protection only is needed, though not my preference. Hardibacker is R=.26 vs Durock NexGen at R=.39.

hearth.com/talk/threads Mobile Home installation

begreen

Skip the in between layers of hardibacker. Instead start with a 1/2” plywood bottom, then 1” micore, the 1/2” Durock.

firewoodhoardersclub.com/forums/ post

Help with research on stove selection

Tue Jan 9 11:27:29 MST 2018

My wife and I recently moved to a small town and into a 1 1/2 story home built in 1914. The lot is about 1 acre so there is space to process and stack firewood. There is a non working pellet stove in place, but I see no evidence of a previous wood stove.

There are a number of issues for me to research before we purchase and install a wood stove. I’d like to get advice on stoves for us to consider.

I am looking for a new hybrid stove with a fire box about 3 cu. ft. The current short list is Woodstock Ideal Steel, Regency F3500, Hearthstone Manchester

I prefer the Ideal Steel. My wife likes the look of the Hearthstone Manchester, but the Ideal Steal not so much. She really likes the sculpted cast iron look in black.

I’m making my best case for a undecorated black IS but would like help in getting a list of stoves to consider and in particular what stoves might look attractive to my wife and have the efficiency and ease of maintenance I’m looking for.