Spa Research
Controls
Lock / Secured
Toggle with [Temp Up] followed by [Soak]
FLd - water filter reminder at 30 days
Constant Clean Filtration
run 1,3,6,9,12 hours twice a day. Press (Temp Down/Filter) button Press (Low/High Front Zone) button Press (Temp Up) to change run time Press (Low/High Front Zone) button to exit
Marquis Spa Model
I have Marquis Spa that came with our house, pre 2000 I think. How can I tell the model? And then download a pdf manual? Markings I found: 41K2 DR-44-1-0-068116
Marquis spa responded with info
GARY DIETZEL <GDIETZEL@marquiscorp.com>
It is a 1998 Reward and here is the manual.
Thank you,
Gary
Laing circulation pump
Chula Vista, CA
Model:
sm-909-NTW-18 3/4"
part:
6010.9
Serial:
543041
Manufactured:
04/98
Sticker:
M7.1E
HP 1/20
RPM 3400
watt 98
cap 0.95
cap 85uF
$100 - Laing Rotor Assembly SM-909-14 Series Only
http://www.ronstultz.com/knowledge/Documents/How%20to%20-%20Repair%20a%20Laing%20909%20Series%20Circulator%20Pump.htm
http://www.spadepot.com/shop/Laing-E10-Spa-Circulating-Pump-34-Barb-240V-P8253C300.aspx
- SKU: BX4200
Spa and Pool Source
$149 - 115/120 Volt Laing Circulation Pump, 3/4” Barbed - E10-NSHNDNN1W-01
- Item Number: 6500-460-115v
- Manufacturer: Laing Thermotech
- Manufacturer Part No: E10-NSHNDNN1W-01
http://www.pool-spa-supplies.com/pumps/circulation-pumps/jacuzzi-laing-e10-nshndnn1w-01-115v-50-60hz-3-4-barbed-circ-pump-6500-460
Pool Spa Supplies
(888) 933-3466
Laing Ecocirc E10-NSTN1W-19 3/4” Thrd Circ. Spa Pump 115V
- $201.39
- Laing Ecocirc E10-NSTN1W-19 3/4” Thrd Circ. Spa Pump 115V
- Replaces SM909NTW-18 3/4” Threaded 115V
- Marquis Spas Part Number: 630-6330
-
Electrical Cord attached approx. 45” long, with 3 wires, AMP connectors on end.
- Thank you for your purchase!
- Your order # is: 200027836
- Subtotal $201.39
- Shipping & Handling $20.05
- Grand Total $221.44
$149 - LAING E10-NSHNDNN1W-01 (115V, 50/60Hz)
- Sundance, La Spas - LAING E10-NSHNDNN1W-01 (115V, 50/60Hz) 3/4” BARBED CIRC PUMP - 6500-460
Pool Spa Supplies - Pump Seals
$144 - Aqua-Flo - Circ-Master CMHP, 1/15 HP, 115V, 1SPD - 02093000-2010
http://www.spaandpoolsource.com/Laing-Circulation-Pumps.aspx
- Phone Order Assistance: 1-916-782-0880
- Email: sales@spaandpoolsource.com
http://www.spaandpoolsource.com/Laing-Circulation-Pumps.aspx
Notes to find replacement - 2015-11-16
- Laing LMB05150993 Roto Repair Kit for 909 Series Circulator Pumps (Not to be used with Spa Pumps)
Or current version 120V barb fitting pump
Pool Spa Supplies - $149
$149 - LAING E10-NSHNDNN1W-01 (115V, 50/60Hz)
- (888) 933-3466
- Laing Ecocirc E10-NSHN1W-19 3/4” Barb Circulation Pump 115V (Jacuzzi Part Number: 6500-460)
- LA Spas Part Number: EL-64104-1, 5EL-64104-1
- Sundance, La Spas - LAING E10-NSHNDNN1W-01 (115V, 50/60Hz) 3/4” BARBED CIRC PUMP - 6500-460
Spa and Pool Source
$149 - 115/120 Volt Laing Circulation Pump, 3/4” Barbed - E10-NSHNDNN1W-01
- Phone Order Assistance: 1-916-782-0880
- Email: sales@spaandpoolsource.com
- Item Number: 6500-460-115v
- Manufacturer: Laing Thermotech
- Manufacturer Part No: E10-NSHNDNN1W-01
Spa Depot
- The Spa Depot
- 8910 Select Ct. SE
- Olympia, WA 98501
- Phone: (360) 956-3997
- SKU: BX4200
- PRICE: $199.95
- Utilizes 3/4” hose barbs.
- Includes 4 ft. cord.
The new E-10 series Laing Circulating Pump is used in many spa brands including Hot Springs, Dimension One, and others. This is a high quality, long-life, extremely quiet circulation pump that can be adapted to virtually any spa because it can be mounted horizontally or vertically with motor end down. This pump is rated for continuous duty operation, features an integrated mounting bracket, and uses up to 40% less power than many other circulation pumps.
Product notes: 120V, 60 HZ, 1/40th HP, 63W, 15 GPM. 6”L x 4 7/8”H. Replaces all discontinued SM-909 120V models. Other part numbers associated with this unit: SM-909-N-26, SM909NH18, SM-303, SM-909-14, SM-1212-26, Watkins silent-flo 5000, Laing Thermotech
filter holder / arm
The Spa Works
707-586-9999
MRQ370-0495 - Marquis Spa Lateral Holder With 8 Inch Arm. Used On 1997 To 1999 MTS Series.
Big Island Parts
Big Island Parts - MARQUIS SPA LATERAL ARM, 8 INCH
- Marquis Spas
- $31.06
- SKU: 370-0672
- Item Number: MRQ370-0672
MARQUIS SPA LATERAL HOLDER WITH 8 INCH ARM
- Marquis Spas
- $64.02
- SKU: 370-0495
- Marquis Spa Lateral Holder With 8 Inch Arm.
- Used On 1997 To 1999 MTS Series.
- Item Number: MRQ370-0495
stuff
How to Replace Sundance Spas Circulation Pump https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEi9gL-pAyw
Marquis 1998 Reward Spa Manual
- MTS (Maximum Therapy Series) - The Reward MTS 1998
- 320 gallon
- 6 position
- Primary jet pump - 5.8 amps 240V
- Auxiliary jet pump - 10.5 amps 240V
- 2 filters - 50 sq. ft. each
- filter turnover rate: 32 times daily each - 64 times daily total
- 84.5” x 83.5” x 36.5”
- 690 lbs dry. 3358 lbs wet
Choose
- Dichlor-then-bleach ala Trouble Free Pool
- or MPS ala Nature 2
Dichlor-then-bleach ala Trouble Free Pool
nitro - Nitro’s Approach To Water Maintaince at PoolSpaforum.com
First Buy list
Return Filter Frog
- 2 new spare filters
- Ahh-Some for Hot Tubs purging flush
- TFTestkits TF-100
- Aqua Chek Yellow Test Strips Free Chlorine, 50 Strips
- boric acid
- fixed hose nozzle
- bleach - Clorox regular unscented
- Trisodium Phosphate (TSP) for filter cleaning
- baking soda
- have Sodium dicloro-s-trazinetrione hydrated
- have SeaKlear system flush for flushing when done with ahh-some
First order checklist
- [x] fixed hose nozzle (amazon)
- [x] Water Tech GG102 Grit Gitter (amazon)
- [x] 2 new spare filters (amazon)
- [x] Ahh-Some for Hot Tubs purging flush (amazon)
- [x] Aqua Chek Yellow Test Strips Free Chlorine, 50 Strips (amazon)
- [x] Hydro Tools 8051 Promotional 4-Foot Telescopic Pool Skimmer (amazon)
- [x] TFTestkits TF-100 ( from tftestkits.net)
- [x] boric acid - Duda Energy LLC
- [x] bleach - Clorox regular unscented
- [x] Trisodium Phosphate (TSP) for filter cleaning
- [ ] baking soda
- [x] Crown Muriatic Acid 1 gal. (Lowes)
- [x] Return Filter Frog
$68 http://www.poolsupplyworld.com/TFTestkits-TF-100-TFTestkit-FAS-DPD-Test-Kit/TF-100.htm
Hands on
Water Balance
Calcium, Baking Soda, Dry Acid and Borates is all you need to balance your water
Measure CH
if CH < 100. increase to 130-150
measured CH 175 ppm
Measure TA
Target TA is 50 ppm
measured TA 130
130 - 50 = 80 TA reduction
Measure pH
Target pH is 7.4 - 7.6
measured pH 7.5
Adjust TA and pH
- Run jets to bring pH >= 7.8
- Add 1.2 oz of 31.45% muriatic acid.
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Repeat to adjust TA and pH as desired
- TA 130 pH 7.8
- add 1.2 oz 31.45% MA
- aerate to 7.8 ph
- measure 80 TA
- add 0.65 oz 31.45% MA (0.65 by weight)
- aerate to 7.8 pH
- add 2.0 oz of 31.45% MA by weight
- measure 80 TA
- add 2.0 oz of 31.45% MA by weight
- measure 60 TA
- add 0.8 oz of 31.45% MA by weight
- measure 50 TA
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aerate to 7.6 pH
- Add 12 oz (weight) of boric acid
- Add 0.3 oz (weight) of Dichlor
- Add 0.3 oz (weight) of Dichlor
- Add 0.3 oz (weight) of Dichlor
- Add 0.4 oz (weight) of Dichlor
- Add 0.4 oz (weight) of Dichlor
- Add 0.4 oz (weight) of Dichlor
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2.1 oz added. Use Dichlor until 2.1 oz has been added. (25 ppm CYA)
- 2.5 oz bleach added 2015-11-22 FC 0 - 6
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1.5 oz MA added 2015-11-22 ph 8.2 -> 7.4
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3 oz bleach - Mon Nov 23 07:29:25 MST 2015
- 2.4 oz bleach added 2015-11-25
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1.8 oz MA added 2015-11-25
- 7 people in hot tub
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7 oz bleach - Thu Nov 26 20:26:27 MST 2015
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6 oz bleach - Fri Nov 27 16:14:52 MST 2015 ( 0 FC )
- 2.5 oz bleach added - Sat Nov 28 16:17:12 MST 2015
- 1.1 oz MA added - Sat Nov 28 16:17:12 MST 2015
- 4.0 oz bleach added - Sun Nov 29 00:59:04 MST 2015
- 2.4 oz bleach added - Sun Nov 29 15:16:21 MST 2015 ( 1 FC )
- 2.5 oz bleach added - Mon Nov 30 00:16:22 MST 2015
- 1.5 oz bleach added - Mon Nov 30 13:00:53 MST 2015 (was pH 7.9 FC 1)
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2.5 oz bleach added - Mon Nov 30 22:41:51 MST 2015
- 3 oz bleach - Tue Dec 1 23:53:41 MST 2015
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1.2 oz MA - Tue Dec 1 23:53:41 MST 2015
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3 oz bleach - Wed Dec 2 09:41:07 MST 2015
- FC 2 pH 7.5 - Wed Dec 2 13:23:19 MST 2015
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1.4 oz bleach - Wed Dec 2 13:23:19 MST 2015
- TA 50 - Wed Dec 2 19:35:31 MST 2015
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2.0 oz bleach - Wed Dec 2 22:23:01 MST 2015
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FC 2 pH 7.6 - Thu Dec 3 08:59:30 MST 2015
- FC 1 pH 7.6 - Fri Dec 4 11:21:27 MST 2015 (before short soak)
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2.4 oz bleach - Fri Dec 4 11:38:46 MST 2015
- 0 FC 8.2 ph - 2.5 oz bleach 1.9 oz MA
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2.0 oz bleach - Sat Dec 5 21:57:22 MST 2015
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FC 2 pH 7.5 (add 1.0 oz bleach) - Sun Dec 6 09:00:41 MST 2015
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FC 4 pH 7.6 (before eve. soak) - Sun Dec 6 20:28:06 MST 2015
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1.5 oz bleach (after 15min. soak) - Sun Dec 6 20:58:04 MST 2015
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FC 1 pH 7.6 - add 2 oz bleach - Mon Dec 7 11:17:00 MST 2015
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1.5 oz bleach - (after soak) - Mon Dec 7 21:13:39 MST 2015
- FC 2 pH 7.6 - (before soak) - Tue Dec 8 06:58:09 MST 2015
- FC 1 pH 7.6 - 1.5 oz bleach - Tue Dec 8 14:26:10 MST 2015
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FC 5 pH 7.8 - Tue Dec 8 20:06:16 MST 2015
- FC 0 pH 7.8 (add 2.0oz bleach) - Wed Dec 9 14:30:52 MST 2015
- FC 5 pH 7.7 - Wed Dec 9 20:26:39 MST 2015
- 2.5 oz bleach - Wed Dec 9 22:10:18 MST 2015
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top off water in spa
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2.5 oz bleach - Thu Dec 10 22:21:59 MST 2015
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3.0 oz bleach - Fri Dec 11 21:55:47 MST 2015
- FC 3 pH 7.8 - Sat Dec 12 07:37:33 MST 2015
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2.6 oz bleach - after soak - Sat Dec 12 10:07:01 MST 2015
- FC 5 pH 8.1 - Sat Dec 12 15:16:30 MST 2015
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1.4 oz MA
- FC 4 pH 7.4 - Sun Dec 13 09:40:19 MST 2015
- 1.9 oz bleach (after 1 soak) - Sun Dec 13 10:14:02 MST 2015
- FC 1 pH 7.5
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3.5 oz bleach (after 1 soak) - Sun Dec 13 21:24:22 MST 2015
- FC 3 pH 7.6 - Mon Dec 14 10:28:43 MST 2015
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2.2 oz bleach (after 1 soak) - Mon Dec 14 11:16:38 MST 2015
- FC 0.5 pH 7.8 - add 3.0 oz bleach - Tue Dec 15 16:16:20 MST 2015
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2.2 oz bleach - (after 1 soak) - Tue Dec 15 20:30:34 MST 2015
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FC 3 pH 7.7 - Thu Dec 17 13:16:07 MST 2015
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3.5 oz bleach - (after 1 soak) - Fri Dec 18 00:21:19 MST 2015
- FC 4 pH 7.6 - Fri Dec 18 11:08:39 MST 2015
- 3.7 oz bleach (after 1 soak) - Fri Dec 18 11:34:00 MST 2015
- Top off spa - Fri Dec 18 11:48:06 MST 2015
- FC 5 pH 8.0 - Fri Dec 18 13:24:24 MST 2015
- 1.3 oz MA - Fri Dec 18 13:32:54 MST 2015
- FC 5 pH 7.3 - Fri Dec 18 21:12:06 MST 2015
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1.8 oz bleach (after 1 soak) - Fri Dec 18 21:57:14 MST 2015
- FC 5 pH 7.6 - Sat Dec 19 12:10:56 MST 2015
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3.5 oz bleach (after 2 soak) - Sat Dec 19 22:26:23 MST 2015
- FC 4 pH 7.6 - Sun Dec 20 09:30:25 MST 2015
- 2.0 oz bleach (after 1 soak) -
- FC 4 pH 7.8 - Sun Dec 20 18:46:53 MST 2015
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4.5 oz bleach (after 3 soak) - Sun Dec 20 20:13:45 MST 2015
- FC 4 pH 7.6 - Mon Dec 21 07:59:51 MST 2015
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6.0 oz bleach (after 3 soak) - Mon Dec 21 23:00:16 MST 2015
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FC 2.0 pH 7.7 - Tue Dec 22 14:10:52 MST 2015
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FC 5 pH 7.7 - Wed Dec 23 11:15:22 MST 2015
- FC 2 pH 7.9 - Thu Dec 24 12:15:46 MST 2015
- 0.9 oz MA
- FC 1 pH 7.1 - Thu Dec 24 15:38:16 MST 2015
- 2.0 oz bleach - Thu Dec 24 15:40:23 MST 2015
- FC 5 pH 7.7 (after aeration) - Thu Dec 24 16:37:42 MST 2015
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3.0 oz bleach (after 1 soak) - Thu Dec 24 21:54:41 MST 2015
- TA 50 Sat Dec 26 16:49:29 MST 2015
- FC 5 pH 7.8 Sat Dec 26 16:49:29 MST 2015
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0.2 oz MA
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FC 3 pH 7.6 - Sun Dec 27 13:11:14 MST 2015
- FC 4 pH 7.9 - Tue Dec 29 11:56:10 MST 2015
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add 0.5 oz MA
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4.0 oz bleach - Tue Dec 29 21:31:28 MST 2015
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FC 6 pH 7.8 - Wed Dec 30 17:20:53 MST 2015
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FC 1 pH 7.9 - Thu Dec 31 17:00:59 MST 2015
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add 1.5 oz MA - Mon Jan 11 22:17:07 MST 2016
- FC 0.5 pH 7.4 - Tue Jan 12 17:39:42 MST 2016
- 1.2 oz bleach - Tue Jan 12 17:45:51 MST 2016
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add 2.5 oz bleach - Tue Jan 12 22:38:03 MST 2016
- FC 5 pH 7.9 - Wed Jan 13 09:50:24 MST 2016
- add 0.7 oz MA - Wed Jan 13 09:51:55 MST 2016
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add 2.5 oz bleach - Wed Jan 13 22:23:57 MST 2016
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add 4.5 oz bleach - Fri Jan 15 23:26:00 MST 2016
- add 2.3 oz MA - Tue Jan 26 21:25:27 MST 2016
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add 3.0 oz bleach - Tue Jan 26 21:25:27 MST 2016
- FC 0 pH 7.6 TA 50 - Wed Jan 27 13:47:53 MST 2016
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add 4.0 oz bleach - Wed Jan 27 13:47:53 MST 2016
- FC 1 pH 8.4 - Sun Jan 31 16:57:07 MST 2016
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add 4.0 oz bleach, 2.8 oz MA - Sun Jan 31 16:58:37 MST 2016
- add 3.0 oz MA - Sat Feb 6 17:40:49 MST 2016
Good TA
SO, what’s a good TA then? Because spas tends to have a lot of aeration from jets and because the water is hot, it is best to keep the TA low at around 50 ppm.
OK, how do we adjust TA then? If TA is too low, you just add Baking Soda to raise it. However, if TA is high, it’s little more involved. You’ll need Acid (Dry or Muriatic). Depending on how high your TA is will depend on how long it will take you. Plan on it taking around an hour to decrease TA by 100 ppm. So if your TA is 300 ppm, plan it taking around 2-3 hours. First, uncover your tub and turn on all your jets, air, blowers, waterfalls etc. Test your pH. When it’s greater than 7.8, add enough acid to bring it down to 7.0. Keep aerating until your pH is 7.8 again (about 30 min), then add more acid and repeat. Every time you add acid you’re lowering your pH and TA. When you get your TA tuned perfectly, your pH will rise to a level (i.e. ~7.6) and stop, then you know you’re at your ideal TA level. If your pH is rising too high (>8.0), bring your TA down a little more. If your pH doesn’t rise enough from aeration (after an hour or more), you over shot it and need to add a little Baking Soda to raise your TA. After a few days/weeks of monitoring it, you’ll get your TA tuned perfectly. You may need to add a little Dry Acid once a week or two, but your water should be well balanced at that point.
I wouldn’t go much below 50 ppm TA, because that could become unstable if you add any kind of acid. Also, if you have a very high TA, above 100, you may need to add more acid in the beginning to get your pH down. Remember, TA is a pH buffer, so the higher the TA, the more acid you need to bring the pH down. It takes approximately 8 oz total of Dry Acid to bring TA down 100 ppm in a 350 Gal tub. However, the key is not to add too much acid all at once to bring your pH down under 7.0. That’s why you should aerate in between adding acid.
Add Boric Acid
Borates target is 50
PoolMath 320 gal. spa. 0-50. 12 oz by weight
Chlorine Sanitation
First Dichlor
Add 0.3 oz Dichlor PoolMath says 0-3.9 FC
Use Dichlor until 2.1 oz has been added. (25 ppm CYA)
More Research
Use Dichlor until 2.1 oz has been added.
Adding 10 ppm of Dichlor == 9 ppm CYA
Target CYA of 20-30 ppm.
0.85 oz of Dichor adds 10 ppm CYA
2.5 oz of Dichlor adds 29 ppm CYA
2.1 oz of Dichlor addes 25 ppm CYA
So, I’m going to assume our target CYA is 30, but feel free to use 20 and adjust as necessary. I find that it’s easier to keep track of how much Dichlor you’re adding to the tub and calculate the CYA, rather than testing CYA with the drop test kit until you get a 30 ppm reading. For every 10 ppm of Dichlor you add to your tub, you add 9 ppm CYA. So roughly 34 ppm Dichlor will give you 30 CYA. On a fresh fill, and after your water is balanced by the above method, shock your tub with Dichlor to 10 ppm FC. Then over the course of the next days, depending on bather load, add 24 ppm more FC using Dichlor. You want to keep your FC normally between 3-6 ppm everyday. This means you will be testing your FC EVERYDAY.
Rule of thumb chlorine each soak
As for how much oxidizer to add after each soak, the rough rule-of-thumb with no ozonator and a hot (104ºF) spa is that every person-hour requires 3-1/2 teaspoons of Dichlor or 3-1/2 fluid ounces of 8.25% bleach or 7 teaspoons of non-chlorine shock (43% MPS) to oxidize bather waste. The real rule is to add whatever you need to so that you still have roughly 2-5 ppm chlorine for the start of your next soak
Test Kit
TFTestkits TF-100
Aqua Chek Aqua Chek Yellow Test Strips Free Chlorine, 50 Strips
TFPC - Extended Test Kit Directions
Ahh-Some for Hot Tubs
Increase calcium hardness
Nu-Clo Bucket Calcium Hardness
Basic Calcium Hardness. Raises calcium level in swimmng pool. Calcium is a valuable part of balanced water to prevent corrosion of any metal parts and protect pool surfaces. Nuclo Basic Calcium Hardness is 100% Calcium Chloride Dihydrate. It is extremely fast dissolving, pH neutral and is applied directly to the pool or pre-dissolved in water.10lb Bucket
Clorox Pool&Spa 19005CLX Calcium Hardness Increaser, 5-Pound
Boric acid (not GentleSpa)
Muriatic Acid
Lowes - Crown 1-Gallon Muriatic Acid - 31.45% - $7.68
Kem-Tek 1 Gal. Swimming Pool Muriatic Acid (2-Pack)
Hydrochloric Acid - 14.5% by volume
How
(granules are recommended)
We recommend maintaining borates at between 30 and 50 ppm. That normally means raising the borate level to around 50 each spring, so that it will still be above 30 come fall.
Before you start on borates, adjust your TA level towards the low end of the appropriate range for your situation. See the Recommended Levels chart for appropriate levels. It is easier to adjust TA before adding borates than it will be after.
There are two approaches to adding borates to the pool: boric acid, or a combination of Borax and muriatic acid. Using boric acid is just slightly more expensive in most cases, and way easier. Borax and muriatic acid takes more effort and handling that much acid is just slightly dangerous, but saves just a little money (if you shop carefully).
In either case you can use PoolMath to calculate the quantities required.
JoyfulNoise - Re: Borates - Why and How
Borates in my pool water has been a net positive for me. Better pH control (let’s me run my TA on the low side) and I got a little efficiency boost in sanitizing as the SWG could run a little easier. Not everyone gets positive results so I hope it works out for you (another reason possibly not to buy so much up front).
Pro Team Poolcare - Gentle Spa (Borates)
Re: Borate formula using ProTeam Gentle Spa
Gentle Spa is not as pH neutral as they claim and people who have used it report that it raises the pH a lot, but not as much as just being borax. Instead of using this product which is more expensive anyway, just get boric acid directly from DudaDiesel, AAA Chemicals (better for pool sized applications since they don’t sell smaller quantities), or The Chemistry Store. With boric acid you don’t need to do much pH balancing as it is only slightly acidic (moves the pH from 7.5 to 7.2 typically).
Forget the part about maintenance. That’s just bunk except for the very small amount of water dilution that occurs from carry-out and refill. Evaporation and refill doesn’t change the concentration and the borates don’t degrade.
7 lb $13.44 - Granular Technical Grade Boric Acid
$13.75 - Granular Boric Acid, 5 lb
Trisodium Phosphate (TSP) for filter cleaning
1 cup TSP + 5 gallons water
Re: How to clean a cartridge filter
PoolGuyNJ
Re: How to clean a cartridge filter
First, find the amount of displaced water when adding a cartridge.
- Fill a vessel such as a clean garbage can with enough water to cover a cartridge.
- Measure the volume.
- Mark the water level.
- Add a cartridge. Agitate it to knock off and trapped air.
- The water level will have risen some. Siphon off the water into a large corn pot until you get the water level back to the original mark.
- Measure the amount of water in the corn pot. That is how much water is displaced by a single cartridge. Adding additional cartridges should displace the same amount.
Now you can calculate how many gallons and how much TSP.
Scott
Nelson Brass Sweeper Nozzle 50161
Fixed nozzle
or Underhill SN6-75 PowerBlast Super Sweeper 6-Inch Power Nozzle with 3/4-Inch Hose Thread Inlet
2 spare filters
Research
Maintaining spa water quality is easier than you think
How to Maintain Your Spa or Hot Tub
Chemicals recommended sold by Dealer
- $52 - Filter Frog Mineral Hybrid Water Care
- $25 - Marquis Shock Oxidizer - 2.2 lbs, Potassium Monopersulfate 32.18% (= 3.26% active oxygen)
- $20 - Marquis Chlorinating Granules - 2 lb - Sodium dicloro-s-trazinetrione hydrated 99%, available chlorine 55.5%
Nature 2 and other chemicals
- $28 - Nature 2 Spa Stick
- $19 - Nature2 Spa Cense Island Pleasures
- $18 - Oxy-Brite shock 2.2 lb
- $17 - Leisure Time Spa 56 - 99% Sodium dicloro-s-trazinetrione dihydrate
- $xx - ProTeam Gentle Spa
Alternate Potassium peroxymonosulfate product
Oxy-Brite® Non-chlorine Shock Oxidizer
Oxy-Brite® non-chlorine shock oxidizer creates sparkling water and shock treats in one step. Containing DuPont™ Oxone®, a powerful oxygen-based oxidizer, its powerful formula rids pool water of contaminants that cause odor and irritation. It also brightens and clears the water with unique blue water brightening crystals.
GLB Oxy-Brite 2.2 lb
Potassium peroxymonosulfate: 41.3%, Inert Ingredients: 58.7%
$18 at Amazon - GLB Oxy-Brite 2.2 lb
Spa decontamination by “Hillbilly Hot Tub”
Decontamination steps.
- Filters: Remove the filter(s) and either clean or replace it. To clean the filter first use a filter cleaner per label directions. After rinsing the cartridge, completely submerge it in a 1/10 dilution of liquid bleach from 1-4 hours. Inspect and clean the filter housing interior. Install the filters after spa decontamination is complete.
- Raise the water level in the spa to 1/2 inch above the high water mark.
- Add at least 100 ppm chlorine to the spa.
- cover the spa. 5 circulate the water at the maximum rate for at least 30-45 minutes. Make sure all jets aor open and on high.
- While the water is circulating, turn the blower , if equiped, on and off every 5 minutes. If you have air to the jets turn the air adjustments off and on every 5 minutes.
- Stop the circulation by turning jets off.
- While spa is draining rinse the sides several times.
- Clean the spa with a surface cleaner and rinse off to remove the cleaner.
- Drain spa to remove any excess water and cleaner I would add to this that the pillows,cover, under the edges of the control knobs shouls also be wiped with bleach water. I would through the pillows right into the tub while it is decontaminating.
- Refill spa with water, replace the filter with a new or cleaned filter.
- Balance the water.
- To verify decontamination, shock treat the spa with 10 ppm of chlorine. Allow the spa to circulate for 8-12 hours and check sanitizer level in the spa. If there is no free chlorine, excessive demand still exsists, repeat the decontamination procedure.
- If free chlorine still exsists proceed with routine maintenance of the spa.
- If after 2 successive attempts to decontaminate the spa, evidence of contamination persists, a serious problem may exist. Do not resume spa use, contact a professional to resolve.
Water Frog water balance guidelines
- pH: 7.2–7.8
- Total Alkalinity: 80–180 ppm
- Calcium Hardness: 150–400
- Total Dissolved Solids: <1500
- Free Chlorine (or Bromine) 1.0–2.0 ppm
PoolSpaforum.com
nitro - Nitro’s Approach To Water Maintaince at PoolSpaforum.com
Trouble Free Pool
Nitro - How do I use Chlorine in my Spa at Trouble Free Pool
Summary
Water Balance
- If your CH is much below 100 ppm, raise it to ~150 ppm. Otherwise, make a note of it.
- Adjust your TA to ~50 ppm. Use Baking Soda to raise it (unlikely to be needed), or Acid/Aeration method to lower it. It takes ~8 oz Dry Acid to lower TA by 100 ppm in a 350 Gal Tub. Don’t add all at once!
- pH should be between 7.2-7.8. Aerate to Raise pH. Acid to lower it.
- If pH creeps up too much (>8.0), lower TA. If pH is to low, and doesn’t raise enough by aeration, raise TA. Add ~50 ppm Borate. (Borox/Acid or Gentle Spa)
- Calcium, Baking Soda, Dry Acid and Borates is all you need to balance your water.
- Use PoolMath to calculate exact amounts to add.
Sanitation
- On a fresh fill use Dichlor until you get to 20-30 ppm CYA. (10 ppm FC = 9 ppm CYA)
- Then switch to Clorox Unscented 6% bleach.
- Never let FC drop to Zero for any length of time. Keep it between 3-6 ppm normally, min of 1 ppm, and shock to 12 ppm once a week.
- Use MPS if needed before hot tub party’s and/or once a week to help oxidation. Don’t use more than needed, because it’s acidic and may lower your TA/pH.
- Dichlor, Bleach and MPS is all you need to keep your tub sanitized.
- Use PoolMath to calculate exact amounts to add.
Lastly, get a drop test kit such as the Taylor K-2006.
Also get FC test strips. They come in handy for a quick FC estimate, during party’s etc.
The only two things you need to check regularly are FC and pH. Check them everyday and after soaks.
Adjust TA as needed. If you have your water well balanced, you’ll rarely need to adjust your TA.
You’ll just be adding chlorine everyday, and after soaks.
Shock once a week, and/or after high bather loads. Use MPS if you have party’s, and/or don’t want to use as much chlorine.
Easy as can be, and your tub is always ready.
TFPC - ABCs of Pool Water Chemistry
There are five chemical levels that every pool owner needs to keep track of:
- FC - Free Chlorine - A sanitizer which keeps your pool water safe and free of germs. Chlorine must be constantly replenished. (level depends on CYA)
- PH - Acidity/Alkalinity - Needs to be kept in balance to prevent irritation and protect the pool equipment. (7.5 to 7.8)
- TA - Total Alkalinity - Appropriate levels help keep the PH in balance. High levels can cause PH to rise. (60 to 120, sometimes higher)
- CH - Calcium Hardness - Appropriate levels help prevent plaster damage. High levels can cause calcium scaling. (220 to 350, vinyl lower)
- CYA - Cyanuric Acid - Protects chlorine from sunlight and determines the required FC level. (outdoors 30 to 50, SWG 70 to 80, indoors 0 to 20)
And others
- CC - Combined Chlorine - CC over 0.5 indicates a problem.
- Borate - An optional enhancement.
chem geek - Re: Hot tub arrived, water chemistry questions
Well, you really didn’t want to get your TA up to the 80-120 ppm range if you planned on using the Dichlor-then-bleach method or any other method that avoided CYA or CH buildup. Leisure Time Spa 56 is Dichlor. The UV won’t help very much unless you kept your chlorine level high during a soak in which case the UV might help control chloramines somewhat so reduce their smell. Otherwise, the UV will just use up chlorine faster (ozone does that as well though in heavy bather load spas it oxidizes bather waste). Leisure Time Replenish is a combination of Dichlor and non-chlorine shock (MPS). By weight it’s around 15% Dichlor and 31% MPS (72% of the Oxone triple salt – they incorrectly say on the label this is potassium monopersulfate but only part of it is that chemical) and 13% Other ingredients (possibly an unspecified clarifier).
You need to decide how you are going to manage your spa. At this point, you’ve been following what the spa store tells you to do. You’re on your own in that case. If you want to follow TFP practices, then read the Pool School article Using Chlorine in Your Spa. The ProClear cartridge is 0.92% metallic silver (from silver nitrate) so competes with Nature2. You need to decide whether you want to have a chlorine spa such as using the Dichlor-then-bleach method described in the Pool School article or whether you want to try mostly non-chlorine where you primarily depend on the silver ions and MPS for disinfection and most oxidation. Just note that unlike Nature2, ProClear did not go through EPA approval. When using primarily MPS, one usually needs to use chlorine every week or so to keep the water clear since MPS doesn’t oxidize all the bather waste.
With either technique (chlorine or MPS) the rough rule-of-thumb is that every person-hour of soaking in a hot (104ºF) spa requires around 3-1/2 teaspoons of Dichlor or 3-1/2 fluid ounces of 8.25% bleach or 7 teaspoons of 43% MPS non-chlorine shock. The real rule is to add whatever amount is needed after a soak so that you still have a measurable residual for the start of your next soak. Usually people start their soak with around 1-2 ppm FC to minimize odor and then add chlorine or MPS right after their soak.
The Dichlor-then-bleach method is the least expensive and easiest to measure method. Does your spa have an ozonator? How often do you plan to use the spa? The main downside with chlorine methods is that ozone reacts with chlorine so if you don’t use the spa every day or two, then the ozonator uses up chlorine so quickly that you have to add chlorine every day or two. With no ozonator, you can probably just add chlorine once mid-week if you only soak on weekends (you might be able to shock it higher after a soak and have it last the week if the water temperature is allowed to drop, but again only if there is no ozonator). Your UV system may act somewhat like an ozonator in that it may increase chlorine demand. If you aren’t soaking frequently, you may consider disconnecting it (or may just do that anyway regardless).
You refer to your own testing with Total Hardness which includes magnesium since that is what test strips are mostly limited to testing. As you can tell, it’s probably wrong. Once you get your K-2006 you can get the CH to 150 ppm to reduce foaming though I suspect your CH might already be that high or higher given your well water. You will want to lower your TA at some point though initially when using Dichlor you may be OK if you find your pH not rising too fast. You’ll want to order the boric acid to get 50 ppm borates and can do so from DudaDiesel or The Chemistry Store. You’ll add that just before switching from Dichlor to bleach and after you’ve gotten your TA down to 50 ppm.
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bridgeman
If you’re using dichlor then bleach the CYA won’t come up immediately, so focus on getting the right FC level and keep track of the amount of dichlor you add, then switch to bleach when you’ve added that amount.
30 ppm of CYA is a good number, and also happens to be the lowest level my test kit can reliably read. I ran with 20 ppm CYA until I got a good test kit, then I raised it to 30 so the test kit could measure it. There’s probably something fundamentally wrong with that but I can live with it
There’s an “Effects of adding chemicals” section near the bottom you can use to figure out the total amount of dichlor required to reach your target CYA level, although you have to do it via the “trial and error” approach (hint - try 3 oz of dichlor). For my tub (which is larger than yours) a total of 6 oz of dichlor is enough to take CYA just past 30 ppm, so I dose with dichlor according to what PoolMath tells me until I get to a total of 6 oz, then switch to dosing with bleach.
Note that the target FC range per PoolMath is 1-3 ppm when you have 0 CYA (fresh fill) and 2-6 ppm when you have 30 ppm CYA (where I switch to bleach). In a perfect world you would ramp up your target FC as you get closer to the target CYA level, but you could probably keep your target at 3 until you reach 30ppm CYA and then set your target to 6. By target I mean the FC level you dose up to, with the idea being that it will be lower but still in range when you test the next day.
I have only run through the exercise once (twice if you count discovering the dichlor/bleach method after running the tub on dichlor-only for a while) – the water has been so nice and clean I haven’t bothered changing it for a few months now.
chem geek
Yeah, that 7 ppm FC is PER 350 GALLONS. It would only be 3.5 ppm FC in 700 gallons. The amount of chlorine is absolute per person-hour of soaking. The FC level corresponding to that will vary depending on the spa size. The typical spa store recommendations of adding some fixed amount after a soak are on the right track and they usually say it’s an amount per person, but they don’t usually say anything about it also being proportional to how long you soak.
Then there are subtleties such as water temperature (one sweats more at higher temperature) and whether one has an ozonator. Ozone oxidizes both bather waste as well as chlorine so in high bather-load situations ozone reduces the amount of chlorine you need but in low bather-load situations (i.e. days of no use in between soaks) it increases the amount of (background dose) chlorine you need.
chem geek
Since I don’t know what specific other chemicals you are using, it’s hard to say. Some systems use a phosphate pH buffer and that will certainly precipitate calcium (as calcium phosphate). If you go with Dichlor-then-bleach, I target 50 ppm for the TA and use 50 ppm Borates as well. Other than that, everything else is described correctly in Using Chlorine in a Spa.
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pooldv - Are hot tubs really supposed to be such a pain?
Re: Are hot tubs really supposed to be such a pain?
No, hot tubs are not a pain. My hot tub is way easier to maintain than my pool because it is smaller and covered and not plaster.
I drained my tub yesterday for the first time in a year. Just because it seemed like I should, since people say you should drain your hot tub every 3-6 months. I also hosed off the filter for the first time in a year. Water was completely clear before and after. The only difference this morning was the water was a little less salty because my wife hasn’t dumped any epsom salts in it yet. And it smelled a little chloriney yesterday because the CYA hadn’t dissolved yet. Chlorine smell was gone this morning.
Our hot tub is 340 gallons. I get in it every day for at least 30 minutes. Wife and I hang out in it for a couple of hours almost every weekend and often more. Sometimes like 6-8 hours.
All I put in my hot tub is bleach, cya and muriatic acid. And epsom salts. Since I drained it yesterday I’ve got a sock in it with 1.8 oz of CYA in it. Per poolmath above, to put my CYA at 40ppm. I add about 1/4 cup of bleach per bather hour after use. If we skip a day I don’t usually do anything, if we skip two then I’ll test chlorine and add a little bleach if needed. I test ph every week or two at least and add a little acid to lower ph. Our ph only ever goes up.
There is a little table by the tub with a jug of bleach a 1/4 cup measuring cup and a Taylor chlorine/ph test box.
Swampwoman
Re: Are hot tubs really supposed to be such a pain?
ChemGeek, I do the same thing with 1” trichlor tabs in this kind of dispenser: http://www.spadepot.com/shop/Floatin…1ouxoCK0rw_wcB
…And then oxidize with bleach to supplement. By keeping it almost “closed” I get a small residual for between soaks. One downside is that with constantly creeping CYA, I change the water more and remain conscious of the ratio, eg use a little more liquid chlorine when I’m about due for a water change
I have generally found it easy to maintain my hot tub this way.
Maybe this info will help the OP arrive at something that works. I love my hot tub but likely love it more since I’ve arrived at an approach that works a little better for me. (I’m allergic to bromine and didn’t have great luck with the mineral approach.)
chem geek
Re: Are hot tubs really supposed to be such a pain?
Got it. At least with Trichlor, the CYA doesn’t climb as quickly as with Dichlor and if you use it just for background dosing then it’s really not that much, especially given the roughly 5 ppm CYA monthly loss typical in spas from oxidation by chlorine. One just needs to periodically add some baking soda since the TA will slowly drop from the Trichlor usage (which is like adding acid). For every 10 ppm FC added by Trichlor, after chlorine consumption/usage it lowers TA by 7.1 ppm (and carbonate alkalinity by 9.0 ppm after pH rises back to where it started from carbon dioxide outgassing).
The Nature2 with MPS system works, but usually needs a little help with periodic dosing with chlorine to keep the water crystal clear. MPS doesn’t oxidize the same things that chlorine does. It doesn’t oxidize ammonia very quickly, for example. Not sure it does much with urea. Of course, using bleach (after initial Dichlor) is the least expensive approach.
chem geek
Re: Are hot tubs really supposed to be such a pain?
Even a brand new hot tub can have bacterial biofilms in it because if the manufacturer or spa dealer does not thoroughly dry out the piping after wet testing, then bacterial biofilms can form. There can also be greases/oils from manufacturing leftover. That why a new spa or one you get used with an unknown history should get cleaned out using Ahh-Some.
In your own spa, if you don’t have all areas disinfected at nearly all times, the spa can go south pretty quickly. It only takes bacteria 15-60 minutes to double in population so one bacteria can turn into over 4 billion in 8 hours under the most ideal of growth conditions.
pH
- 14 - base - liquid drain cleaner
- 9.5 - base - baking soda
- 7.2 - blood
- 7 - neutral
- 2 - acid - lemon joice
- 0 - acid - hydrochloric acid
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Steven Goodale - Hot Tub Chemistry- Bromine vs Chlorine
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Chemicals you will need:
- Nature2 SPA Stick
- Nature2 Cense
- Test Strips: Nature² Spa Test Strips
- Di-chlor: Proteam Spa Di-Chlor
- Balancer: Spa Up, Spa Down
Optional chemicals
- System Flush: SeaKlear Spa System Flush: Use Spa System Flush to remove debris & organisms from your spa’s plumbing system if it has been unused or unattended.
- Scum Bug: This s a floating foam sponge which collects contaminants that create scum lines, cloudy water, and clogged filters.
- Stain / Scale Treatment: Natural Chemistry Spa Stain & Scale
- Defoamer: Natural Chemistry Spa Perfect
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Water Balance Guidelines
pH: 7.2–7.8
Total Alkalinity: 80–180 ppm
Calcium Hardness: 150–400
Total Dissolved Solids: <1500
Free Chlorine (or Bromine) 1.0–2.0 ppm
test kit
- Lamotte Insta Test Borate Pool & Spa Strips might be useful
- $8.10 Lamotte Insta Test 3 Swimming pool Test Strips, 50 Strips
- TFTestkits TF-100
- or Taylor K-2006 / Leslie’s 81329
TFTestkits TF-100 has all these
- Chlorine FAS/DPD
- Combined Chloramines
- Chlorine OTO
- pH Test
- Total Alkalinity
- Cyanuric Acid
- Calcium Hardness
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TFPC - TF100 the best test kit?? what accessories?
Isaac-1 Re: Which water test kit of these is the best?
Isaac-1 Re: Which water test kit of these is the best?
Reply #4 on: May 08, 2014, 06:59:23 PM - I think the big question here is how do you plan to manage your tub, are you going to use Chlorine or Bromine, or something else? If Chlorine what are you going to use to chlorinate, dichlor, bleach, etc? I have the TF-100 which I use for my swimming pool, and occasionally for my hot tub, but most of the time I just use a simple OTO Chlorine / pH test for the hot tub, as it tells me most of what I care about on a daily basis, once I get things fine tuned after a fresh refill using the TF-100.
Poolmaster 22211 Smart Test 4-Way Pool and Spa Test Strips - 50ct
TAYLOR TECHNOLOGIES INC K-2006 TEST KIT COMP CHLORINE FAS-DPD
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Taylor Tech. K-2006 product page
- Alkalinity, Total
- Blended indicator
-
1 drop = 10 ppm total alkalinity as CaCO₃
- Chlorine, Free & Combined
- FAS-DPD
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1 drop = 0.2 or 0.5 ppm chlorine (Cl₂)
- Cyanuric Acid
- Turbidimetric
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30, 40, 50, 60, 70, 80, 90, 100 ppm CYA
- Hardness, Calcium
- EDTA titration (includes inhibitors to prevent metal interference)
-
1 drop = 10 ppm calcium hardness as CaCO₃
- pH w/ acid/base demand
- Phenol red
- 7.0, 7.2, 7.4, 7.6, 7.8, 8.0
Filters
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ProTeam GentleSpa
Nitro at TFP - How do I use Chlorine in my Spa (or pool)?
Lastly, there is one more thing I haven’t mentioned that you can add to your tub that will help buffer your pH, Borates. The easiest way to add Borates to your tub is to get a product called Gentle Spa. It is pH balanced, so there is no need to add acid to counter balance it. The ideal amount is ~50 ppm, and only needs to be added once per water change. That will help keep your pH from drifting from aeration. Not to mention, actually make your water feel silkier. I highly recommend it.
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Ahh-Some for Hot Tubs
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youtube demo of Ahh-Some for Hot Tubs
Instant Filter Cleaner
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Handling Muriatic Acid
Be careful MA is heaver than water - add by return
Using Muriatic Acid to Safely Lower Your Pool’s pH
Lowering Swimming Pool Alkalinity – A Step by Step Guide
FAQ: Questions about Swimming Pool Alkalinity Levels
FLO error code
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flow switch Q-12ds
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- Rated at: 50 Watt Max. Resistive, 10 Watt Inductive (Coil) 120-240 VAC. 5-28 VDC 0.5A DC Switching. 2.5 DC Steady State
- Does not come with cables
- ¾” slip x slip T with ½” threaded reducer for ½” threaded flow switch
- Has standard spade terminals
- Can be removed out of the T fitting and installed in existing T fitting on your spa with ½” threads
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Spa and Pool Source Phone Order Assistance: 1-916-782-0880 Email: sales@spaandpoolsource.com 1998 Marguis Reward spa ultrajet 5KCR39UN3790X ultrajet by vico MOD 5KCR39UN3790X V 230V RPM 3450 / 1725 A 6.9/2.6 3.1 inch OD threads.
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1998 Marguis Reward spa http://www.spaandpoolsource.com/6500-217-Ultra-Jet-spa-pump.aspx
Cannot read the Vico model number.
The motor has this text:
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2 Speed 230V 06.7A 48Fr 5.5” Diam. GE Motor 5KCR39UN3790BX
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Text on pump: ………………. ultrajet by vico MOD 5KCR39UN3790X V 230V RPM 3450 / 1725 A 6.9/2.6 ……………….
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spapumpsandmore.com motor mount pad
Pump/Motor mounting pad for 48 frame motors and most 56 frame motors, by Waterway Plastics
This motor mounting pad fits under any 48 frame pumps, and under most 56 frame motors and pumps with industry standard bases. Pad cushions the motor to reduce noise and vibration transmission to the mounting surface. Measures 6-1/4 x 3-7/8 x 1/2”, designed to fit typical industry standard base on 48 and 56 frame motors which measure 4x6.5” and have 3x5” bolt pattern. Range for the bolt pattern would be about 3” x 4-1/8” to 5-1/2”. Molded of a soft, flexible PVC compound for heat and water resistance. Includes 4 soft ‘washers’ to isolate mounting screws from touching the motor base. Recommended for all whirlpool bath tubs, and hot tub applications. For Waterway pump motors, for pump motors, and many others. Used by many bathtubs for vibration and sound deadening, but works well on all pump modelsV
Frame on existing pump is 6.5x4 plate, 3x5 bolts.
Order
Description: OrderID 31204 Invoice Number 31204 Customer ID 28179 Total: $320.99 (USD) Date/Time: 18-Oct-2016 8:51:47 PDT Transaction ID: 40006733788 Payment Method: Visa xxxx0128 Transaction Type: Purchase Auth Code: 04443D spapumpsandmore.com Laguna Hills, CA 92653 info@spapumpsandmore.com
MotorPad Pump/Motor mounting pad for 48 frame motors and most 56 frame motors, by Waterway Plastics 1 $5.90 $5.90 PUULS220258220G PUULSC220258220 PUULS220258220G PUULS220258220H 2" SD/CS 1014224 1014225 6.5-8.0A 230V 2-spd 1014246 PUULSC220258220, PUULSC220258220GR 1 $289.15 $289.15 Subtotal: $295.05 Tax: $0.00 Shipping Cost: $25.94 Grand Total: $320.99
Wiring for spa jet pump
red wire - high speed - 1 on pump white wire - comm. - 5 on pump black wire - low speed - 6 on pump green wire - ground - chassis lug on pump
insulation back on spa
Owens Corning FOAMULAR 250 (xps would like 1” sheets)
Dow STYROFOAM Brand Square Edge Insulation (xps) Extruded polystyrene closed-cell foam 25psi
Polyshield at Lowes
$11.45 for Expanded Polystyrene Foam Board Insulation (Common: 1-in x 4-ft x 8-ft; Actual: 0.937-in x 3.875-ft x 7.875-ft)
Pipe wrap
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lowes.com fiberglass pipe wrap Frost King 1-in Fiberglass Plumbing Pipe Wrap Insulation 3” wide 1” thick 25’ long $5.98
order
previous order number is 31204, placed 10/18/2016 at 08:51AM Thank you for placing your order. Your order number is 31295. Description: OrderID 31295 Invoice Number 31295 Customer ID 28262 Billing Information Craig Anderson 8 Sedum Court Pueblo, CO 81001 US craig@coot.net 719-320-6799 Shipping Information Total: $327.89 (USD) Date/Time: 24-Oct-2016 13:28:51 PDT Transaction ID: 40025118203 Payment Method: Visa xxxx0128 Transaction Type: Purchase Auth Code: 05543D spapumpsandmore.com Laguna Hills, CA 92653 US info@spapumpsandmore.com WW8050230 Pump Union O-Ring for 2 inch PVC Pipe Size Waterway pump unions. Pack of 1. WW 805-0230 2-3/4" OD UPULOR 230 4 $3.20 $12.80 PUULS220258220G PUULSC220258220 PUULS220258220G PUULS220258220H 2" SD/CS 1014224 1014225 6.5-8.0A 230V 2-spd 1014246 PUULSC220258220, PUULSC220258220GR 1 $289.15 $289.15 Subtotal: $301.95 Tax: $0.00 Shipping Cost: $25.94 Grand Total: $327.89
Mon Oct 31 09:17:58 MDT 2016
to: info@spapumpsandmore.com subject: missing motor pad
Your order number is 31295, placed 10/24/2016 at 01:28PM. CustomerID# 28262
I opened up the package for this order and found the motor and o-rings but not the motor pad. Was it shipped in a separate package?